Nonprofit Nation with Julia Campbell

Science As Storytelling with Vivienne Ming

Julia Campbell Season 2 Episode 189

What if science wasn’t just about data—but about meaning? And what if stories were our most powerful technology for building a better future?

This week on Nonprofit Nation, we’re joined by Dr. Vivienne Ming—theoretical neuroscientist, delusional inventor, and founder of The Human Trust—for a mind-expanding conversation about the stories we tell about science, progress, and ourselves.

Vivienne is known for using AI, neuroscience, and epigenetics to tackle “impossible” problems—from detecting postpartum depression to transforming global economic inclusion. But what drives her work isn’t just data—it’s a deep belief in human capacity, creativity, and meaning.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why science needs storytellers—and how nonprofits can play that role
  • How to make data emotionally resonant and ethically sound
  • What it means to center humanity (not just efficiency) in technology
  • How nonprofits can help shape systems that actually serve people
  • What imagination and science fiction can teach us about real-world change

If you’ve ever struggled to communicate complex ideas, justify your mission, or bridge the gap between vision and impact—this episode is for you.

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About Vivienne Ming

Dr. Vivienne Ming explores maximizing human capacity as a theoretical neuroscientist, delusional inventor, and demented author. Over her career she’s founded 6 startups, been chief scientist at 2 others, and founded The Human Trust, a philanthropic data trust and “mad science incubator” that explores seemingly intractable problems—from a lone child’s disability to global economic inclusion—for free. She co-founded Dionysus Health, which combines AI and epigenetics to invent the first ever biological test for postpartum depression and change the lives of millions of families. She also develops AI tools for learning at home and in school, models of bias in hiring and promotion, and neurotechnologies to treat dementia and TBI. In her free time, Vivienne designs AI systems to treat her son’s diabetes, predict manic episodes in bipolar sufferers, and reunite orphan refugees with extended family members. For relaxation, she writes science fiction and spends time with her wife and children. Vivienne was named one of “10 Women to Watch in Tech” by Inc. Magazine and one of the BBC’s 100 Women in 2017. She is featured frequently for her research and inventions in The Financial Times, The Atlantic, Quartz Magazine and the New York Times.

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